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Chapter 20

2013-10-21T09:26:22Z

Diddleyman: added missing page number 221 , missing from comment

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==Page 219==
'''a strip club called Joie de Beavre''' 
Rhyming pun on the french phrase joie de vivre, which is a feeling of happiness, joy, or excitement about life. [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/joie%20de%20vivre \ˌzhwä-də-ˈvēvrə\ is the pronunciation of the original phrase.]

'''Joie de Beavre''' 
is slightly resonant with "Boyd Beaver," kazoo soloist from the first couple of pages of "The Crying of Lot 49." [http://cl49.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Chapter_1 PynchonWiki]

'''Joie de Beavre''' 
This also seems, given the nature of the club, to be a slang reference to female genitalia

'''a Vincente Minnelli set''' 
Vincente Minnelli (February 28, 1903 – July 25, 1986) was an American stage director and film director, famous for directing such classic movie musicals as ''Meet Me in St. Louis'', ''The Band Wagon'', and ''An American in Paris''. In addition to having directed some of the most famous and well-remembered musicals of his time, Minnelli made many comedies and melodramas. He was married to Judy Garland from 1945 until 1951; they were the parents of Liza Minnelli. From [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincente_Minnelli WIKI].

==Page 219==
'''"Hi, I was told to see Stu Gotz?"''' 
Stu Gotz, the Italian-American running Joie de Beavre. Stugots is slang for male genitalia in many dialects in Southern Italy: 'stu cazzo', means "testicles," as in "a brassy pair".
It's also the name of Tony Soprano's boat.

''' "You want to audition, MILF night is Tuesdays,come back then."''' MILF per Wikipedia 'MILF, an acronym for "Mother/Mom/Mum I'd Like to F**k", is a colloquial term common in English and generally regarded as vulgar when spelled out. It denotes a female, usually several years older than the person using the term.[1]'. Thus, this is referring to Maxine's age relative to the average stripper.

==Page 221==

'''except possibly "That's When I Reach for My Revolver."''' 
Perhaps because it's a cover, originally written and performed by Boston punk band Mission of Burma.

==Page 223==
'''Champagne Lounge''' 
A champagne room (also called a champagne lounge, or champagne court) is a specialized VIP Room service offered by gentleman's clubs where a customer can purchase time (usually in half-hour increments) with an exotic dancer in a private room on the premises. Depending on the quality of the club, these rooms, which are typically away from the hustle and bustle of the main club, are generally well decorated and usually appointed with a private bar. Clubs sell champagne by the glass or by the bottle for both the dancer and the customer. Some clubs also offer a food and/or cigar service.

'''"can I help it if I like feet?"''' 
The footjob that follows on page 225 demonstrates, yet again, Pynchon's apparent foot fetish. In his second novel, ''The Crying of Lot 49'' (1966), in [http://cl49.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Chapter_2 Chapter 2], there's Sick Dick and the Volkswagens' song "I Want To Kiss Your Feet." Pynchon also explores the foot fetish in [http://against-the-day.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=F#footfetish ''Against the Day''].

==Page 225==
'''Eric, what's this, did you just...come on my feet?''' 
For mood music, they might been listening to that classic song by Sick Dick and the Volkswagens "I Want to Kiss Your Feet" from [http://cl49.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Chapter_2 the first page of Chapter 2] of ''The Crying of Lot 49''.

'''Trojan Abstract Expressionist Collection''' 
Sadly, not real, but Trustex [http://www.condomdepot.com/product/detail.cfm/nid/201/pid/2359 banana] flavored ones do exist.

==Page 228==
'''Mothra''' 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothra Mothra] and/or Godzilla make another appearance in a Pynchon work. Does anyone have a list of all the references?

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Chapter 20

2013-10-21T09:22:24Z

Diddleyman:

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==Page 219==
'''a strip club called Joie de Beavre''' 
Rhyming pun on the french phrase joie de vivre, which is a feeling of happiness, joy, or excitement about life. [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/joie%20de%20vivre \ˌzhwä-də-ˈvēvrə\ is the pronunciation of the original phrase.]

'''Joie de Beavre''' 
is slightly resonant with "Boyd Beaver," kazoo soloist from the first couple of pages of "The Crying of Lot 49." [http://cl49.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Chapter_1 PynchonWiki]

'''Joie de Beavre''' 
This also seems, given the nature of the club, to be a slang reference to female genitalia

'''a Vincente Minnelli set''' 
Vincente Minnelli (February 28, 1903 – July 25, 1986) was an American stage director and film director, famous for directing such classic movie musicals as ''Meet Me in St. Louis'', ''The Band Wagon'', and ''An American in Paris''. In addition to having directed some of the most famous and well-remembered musicals of his time, Minnelli made many comedies and melodramas. He was married to Judy Garland from 1945 until 1951; they were the parents of Liza Minnelli. From [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincente_Minnelli WIKI].

==Page 219==
'''"Hi, I was told to see Stu Gotz?"''' 
Stu Gotz, the Italian-American running Joie de Beavre. Stugots is slang for male genitalia in many dialects in Southern Italy: 'stu cazzo', means "testicles," as in "a brassy pair".
It's also the name of Tony Soprano's boat.

''' "You want to audition, MILF night is Tuesdays,come back then."''' MILF per Wikipedia 'MILF, an acronym for "Mother/Mom/Mum I'd Like to F**k", is a colloquial term common in English and generally regarded as vulgar when spelled out. It denotes a female, usually several years older than the person using the term.[1]'. Thus, this is referring to Maxine's age relative to the average stripper.

'''except possibly "That's When I Reach for My Revolver."''' 
Perhaps because it's a cover, originally written and performed by Boston punk band Mission of Burma.

==Page 223==
'''Champagne Lounge''' 
A champagne room (also called a champagne lounge, or champagne court) is a specialized VIP Room service offered by gentleman's clubs where a customer can purchase time (usually in half-hour increments) with an exotic dancer in a private room on the premises. Depending on the quality of the club, these rooms, which are typically away from the hustle and bustle of the main club, are generally well decorated and usually appointed with a private bar. Clubs sell champagne by the glass or by the bottle for both the dancer and the customer. Some clubs also offer a food and/or cigar service.

'''"can I help it if I like feet?"''' 
The footjob that follows on page 225 demonstrates, yet again, Pynchon's apparent foot fetish. In his second novel, ''The Crying of Lot 49'' (1966), in [http://cl49.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Chapter_2 Chapter 2], there's Sick Dick and the Volkswagens' song "I Want To Kiss Your Feet." Pynchon also explores the foot fetish in [http://against-the-day.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=F#footfetish ''Against the Day''].

==Page 225==
'''Eric, what's this, did you just...come on my feet?''' 
For mood music, they might been listening to that classic song by Sick Dick and the Volkswagens "I Want to Kiss Your Feet" from [http://cl49.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Chapter_2 the first page of Chapter 2] of ''The Crying of Lot 49''.

'''Trojan Abstract Expressionist Collection''' 
Sadly, not real, but Trustex [http://www.condomdepot.com/product/detail.cfm/nid/201/pid/2359 banana] flavored ones do exist.

==Page 228==
'''Mothra''' 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothra Mothra] and/or Godzilla make another appearance in a Pynchon work. Does anyone have a list of all the references?

{{Bleeding Edge PbP}}

Chapter 20

2013-10-21T09:20:49Z

Diddleyman: additional comment re Beavre, defining MILF

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==Page 219==
'''a strip club called Joie de Beavre''' 
Rhyming pun on the french phrase joie de vivre, which is a feeling of happiness, joy, or excitement about life. [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/joie%20de%20vivre \ˌzhwä-də-ˈvēvrə\ is the pronunciation of the original phrase.]

'''Joie de Beavre''' 
is slightly resonant with "Boyd Beaver," kazoo soloist from the first couple of pages of "The Crying of Lot 49." [http://cl49.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Chapter_1 PynchonWiki]

'''Joie de Beavre''' 
This also seems, given the nature of the club, to be a slang reference to female genitalia

'''a Vincente Minnelli set''' 
Vincente Minnelli (February 28, 1903 – July 25, 1986) was an American stage director and film director, famous for directing such classic movie musicals as ''Meet Me in St. Louis'', ''The Band Wagon'', and ''An American in Paris''. In addition to having directed some of the most famous and well-remembered musicals of his time, Minnelli made many comedies and melodramas. He was married to Judy Garland from 1945 until 1951; they were the parents of Liza Minnelli. From [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincente_Minnelli WIKI].

==Page 219==
'''"Hi, I was told to see Stu Gotz?"''' 
Stu Gotz, the Italian-American running Joie de Beavre. Stugots is slang for male genitalia in many dialects in Southern Italy: 'stu cazzo', means "testicles," as in "a brassy pair".
It's also the name of Tony Soprano's boat.

''' "You want to audition, MILF night is Tuesdays,come back then." MILF per Wikipedia 'MILF, an acronym for "Mother/Mom/Mum I'd Like to F**k", is a colloquial term common in English and generally regarded as vulgar when spelled out. It denotes a female, usually several years older than the person using the term.[1]'. Thus, this is referring to Maxine's age relative to the average stripper.'''

'''except possibly "That's When I Reach for My Revolver."''' 
Perhaps because it's a cover, originally written and performed by Boston punk band Mission of Burma.

==Page 223==
'''Champagne Lounge''' 
A champagne room (also called a champagne lounge, or champagne court) is a specialized VIP Room service offered by gentleman's clubs where a customer can purchase time (usually in half-hour increments) with an exotic dancer in a private room on the premises. Depending on the quality of the club, these rooms, which are typically away from the hustle and bustle of the main club, are generally well decorated and usually appointed with a private bar. Clubs sell champagne by the glass or by the bottle for both the dancer and the customer. Some clubs also offer a food and/or cigar service.

'''"can I help it if I like feet?"''' 
The footjob that follows on page 225 demonstrates, yet again, Pynchon's apparent foot fetish. In his second novel, ''The Crying of Lot 49'' (1966), in [http://cl49.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Chapter_2 Chapter 2], there's Sick Dick and the Volkswagens' song "I Want To Kiss Your Feet." Pynchon also explores the foot fetish in [http://against-the-day.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=F#footfetish ''Against the Day''].

==Page 225==
'''Eric, what's this, did you just...come on my feet?''' 
For mood music, they might been listening to that classic song by Sick Dick and the Volkswagens "I Want to Kiss Your Feet" from [http://cl49.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Chapter_2 the first page of Chapter 2] of ''The Crying of Lot 49''.

'''Trojan Abstract Expressionist Collection''' 
Sadly, not real, but Trustex [http://www.condomdepot.com/product/detail.cfm/nid/201/pid/2359 banana] flavored ones do exist.

==Page 228==
'''Mothra''' 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothra Mothra] and/or Godzilla make another appearance in a Pynchon work. Does anyone have a list of all the references?

{{Bleeding Edge PbP}}